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My best investing decision

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I am most proud of an investing decision I made years back.

Let’s go the beginning.

I have been investing for last 20+ years. In the initial years, I was fumbling in the dark and trying figure it out. I had several failures and lost a decent portion of my tiny net worth. Over the years as I gained confidence, I started investing more of my net worth in stocks and moved out of mutual funds entirely by 2009. I launched the advisory in 2011 after investing my own money for 10 + years.

During the initial I did not invest a single penny of my mother’s money as I did not want to risk her hard-earned savings on my trial and error. However, by 2011, her savings were dwindling as inflation was eating into it. The interest on her savings were barely enough to cover her expenses and at that rate, she would have run out of money in the next 7-9 years.

Now you must be thinking – That’s what kids are for. I should be taking care of her to which I wholly agree. However, this line of thinking misses a key point – Independence and choice.

Fear of markets

Our parent’s generation is over cautious and conservative. They consider the stock market to be a risky place and media doesn’t help the cause. As a result, most of them invest mostly in fixed income. In doing so they take on a different risk – loss of purchasing power due to inflation.

This fear may not be rational, but you cannot blame them for it. In the 80s and 90s, the Indian stock market was poorly regulated with brokers often cheating their customers (it happened to me a few times). No wonder the earlier generation has been wary due to the speculative cycles and poor regulation of the past.

Instead of wishing the problem away, I tried my best to give psychological safety to my mother when I decided to invest for her

This is what I did in 2011.

  • Invested 50% of her net worth, same as my own/ advisory portfolio.
  • Reduced the withdrawal rate from her accounts to bare minimum and covered the balance.
  • Have not withdrawn anything from the portfolio and let compounding do its magic.
  • Promised to backstop her portfolio. I would cover any losses personally.

The last point was the key. It ensured that she would not lose money if I made poor decisions.

In the last 12 years, her equity portfolio is up 13X and is 80%+ of her net worth. The dividend income alone can cover her expenses.

There is a joy in having enough money of your own so that you don’t have to depend on your children. I continue to take care of her, but my mother knows that she doesn’t need it and she has a choice. She can ‘choose’ to spend her ‘own’ money as she sees fit. It’s a different point that she has limited needs and spends most of it on her kids and grandkids.

I cannot be prouder of this achievement. I can sense the satisfaction she has from knowing that she has enough to spend as she wishes and not depend on anyone.

If you have older parents, I suggest putting at least a small portfolio of their net worth in mutual funds (if you don’t invest directly). At a minimum, this money would act as an inflation hedge.

However, remember to manage their fears and caution about the stock market. Preferably, start small and earn their trust over time. Finally, be conservative and risk averse with their money.

Believe me, in 10 years you will be glad that you convinced them to do it.

Evolution of style and Stop losses

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I published the following note to all subscribers. Please read the disclaimer at the end of the note


The following holdings positively impacted the portfolio performance

  • Apar Industries
  • Bector Foods
  • CERA sanitaryware
  • Polycab limited

Conversely, these holdings had a negative impact:

  • Aarti industries
  • Quess Corp
  • Puravankara

Style drift and new approaches

In my 2022 year end note,  I spoke about some changes in my approach and using stop loss to manage the risk.

These changes are by design and have not been done lightly. I have always resisted chasing performance based on the latest fad of the day. However, my failures with a few positions such as PEL, Edelweiss and Shemaroo made me question the process and look for my blind spots.

When these positions declined, I dug deep into the financials and thought a lot on it, but could not find a clear way to answer the question – do we sell or hold? The numbers looked good and so we held. It turned out that the market had already anticipated the collapse in the earnings.

That has led me to a 3+ year journey of understanding technical analysis, momentum, factors in investing and so on. As I have studied these other areas, I have adapted my value approach to fit the changing market structure.

10-15 years back, markets were slow in responding to earnings miss and business cycles. These things have changed considerably now. Markets react much faster now – mainly due to higher competition and automated algorithms. In effect the time horizon of markets is shifting.

I have now blended momentum and Technicals to my value style. The core focus on value and long-term value creation remains, however, momentum sometimes acts as a booster and Technicals are more like a trip wire to alert us

Purity of style

I have practiced value investing for 20+ years now. I used to wear it as a badge of honor and made it a part of my identity as an investor. Even my blog is titled valueinvestorindia.com

It is time to go beyond that.

I am not talking about switching from a long term buy and hold to swing trading. However, being religious about my approach is not the way forward. I have belatedly realized that other approaches to investing have their own strengths & weakness and adapting some of these strengths to our style strengthens it.

For example: Risk management is a strong point of successful traders and blind spot for buy & hold value investors like me, who believe in holding a stock forever irrespective of losses.

In a similar manner, momentum/quant investors have simplicity of approach in their favor. Their approach can be boiled down to a few bullet points and easily automated. Value investors like me have layers and layers of complexity. I have used this mindset to strip away the non-essentials.

For example: Over the short-term valuation and management quality are important but not critical. Overweighing this information, which does not add to returns, means we have missed out on good ideas with a 1–2-year time horizon

Stop loss and zone of action

I spoke about having stop loss for each position in my last update. I review the stop loss regularly but will not share it with anyone. The reason for it is simple – I want to retain the flexibility to change my mind.

There is nothing special about the stop loss. It is based on a blend of fundamentals and technical factors including max loss or downside. In case of long-term holding, the stop loss is wider than a trade as that is a position we wish to hold longer.

As long as the price is above the stop loss and I am comfortable with the long-term fundamentals of the company, I will not react.

We cannot react every time the stock drops or rises a few % points. On the other hand, we don’t want to ignore a 20%+ drop, which we have done in the past. A few % change matters for a swing trader but is noise for us. However, a 20%+ drop means that there is something occurring at the company or sector level and a lot of investors including traders are exiting the stock.

At such points, we need to react and make a decision. Are we ok with holding the stock for an extended period and bearing a much larger loss or should we exit and live to fight another day. On this count my thinking has changed. I would rather take a hit to my ego and come back to the position another time.

Evolution

I rarely talk about the macro conditions. It’s not that macro is not important, but there is already enough noise and drama around it

For example – The fed or RBI decision on interest rates is the same for all financial service companies. What’s the point of talking about it? A good financial institution will figure out a way to work around it. HDFC bank has performed well over 30 years even as PSU banks have faltered. Surely it is not because of the interest rates.

I want to focus on what matters for a company and how it can do well in the long run. In the same manner, I want to do the same for us when writing to all of you.

My investment approach and framework will have a lot more impact on our relative returns than the macro. If the world has a major event, such as COVID, all investors including us will be impacted. Our approach will however decide the level of impact.

I spoke extensively about the evolution of my investment approach in this podcast. You can review it if you are interested.

A long-term partnership

We repeat this every time in the portfolio review and will do so again (more for the benefit of the new subscribers)

  • We do not have timing skills and cannot prevent short-term quotation losses in the market.
  • Our approach is to analyze and hold a company for the long term (2-3 years). As a result, our goal is to earn above average returns in the long run and try to avoid losses during the same period.
  • Despite our best efforts, we will make stupid decisions and lose money from time to time. We feel the same pain as we invest our own money in the same stocks.

We will treat all of you in the same manner as we would want to be treated if our roles were reversed. This means that we will be transparent and honest about our actions even when we have made a mistake.

Disclaimer – Stocks mentioned in the above note are for information / illustration purposes only. This is not a Buy / Sell recommendation.

Quick rich schemes are dangerous

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Let me share two personal stories, one recent and another from 25 years ago.

I have a relative who recently passed away at the age of 50 due to a heart attack. He had a very stressful job and was facing financial pressures as well. After losing his job, he found himself short of money, and it seems (though I don’t know for sure) that he thought an easy way out of his financial troubles would be to trade in the stock market.

He lost his savings and sunk deeper into debt. I am certain that all these stressors took a toll on him.

The second story is even closer. This is the story of my own father, who passed away around the same age as this relative. I have shared this story here. He lost money with a plantation company, and when I visited their office, I was told that the money was gone. I can never forget this episode in my life.

Have a Heart

I recently posted a tweet when a bank in the US collapsed

If one invests in a ‘teak’ company or in the stock market, the person may have some idea that they are taking a risk. However, when a depositor puts money in the bank, they are NOT putting that money in with an upside

I received a few replies back, saying that such people do not deserve to get their money back if they did not analyze the bank’s financials before putting their money in. I have analyzed banks for 25 years and am sure that I know more about banks than these folks. Barring a handful of analysts or insiders, no one, including the top management, can tell you with certainty that the bank will not fail.

You have to be a heartless !@@### (insert your choice of word here) to make this statement.

I have been very numbers-driven throughout my investing life. However, there are areas in life where I draw a line. The safety of a person’s life savings is one of them. You can never understand the despair of a person who has lost his life’s savings

Implicit trust

There are vehicles such as bank FD, government debt, Debt mutual funds etc which have an unwritten safety/guarantee implicit in them. If you make every depositor or investor read the 100 page prospectus or study 10 years of financial statements, the system will come to a grinding halt

Our world works on implicit trust and not everything can be driven by contracts or due-diligence. Do you check the safety certificate of a plane or its maintenance manual before boarding a flight. We implicitly trust the system to make flying safe for us

If a plane goes down, we don’t blame the passenger for it

Even if you don’t consider the humane aspect, you will realize that if you do not the guarantee deposits, the whole system will collapse

Don’t believe me? read about the banking failures of last 100 years and you will understand why regulators and government rush in to protect depositors. Hint: they did not in the 1930s and that led to the collapse of the US economy

Are more regulations the answer

There are a lot of regulations from SEBI, and these keep growing by the day. My partner, Kedar, carries all the burden, and it is tough to keep up. However, considering the number of bad actors and terrible advice on social media, I personally think that’s a small price to pay (for people like us)

Bad faith investment advice and get-rich-quick schemes are not harmless gimmicks. They cost lives and destroy families.

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