I keeping reading this debate on whether long term buy and hold is a smart strategy or is it a fad followed by buffett followers.

It would seem to me that such a discussion clearly shows that the person debating it really does not get the core idea of the approach. Long term buy and hold is not long term buy and forget. There is no such business which one can buy and forget. When there is such intense competition, one has to follow or track the company in which one is invested.

My typical approach to understand the industry and then the company in detail. If I am comfortable with the company and the industry and if the valuation is compelling, I tend to slot the company into one of the three buckets

Type 3 companies are value stocks (graham style) where the intrinsic value of the business is flat or at best increasing very slowly. I hold such companies till they come within 90% of my estimate of intrinsic value and then I sell them. I do not see a benefit of holding such companies too long if the company is selling close to the intrinsic value which is turn is flat or worse, shrinking

The other end of the spectrum are my type 1 kind of companies. These are dominant companies with strong competitive advantages and their intrinsic value is increasing at decent pace. Such companies are more of the buy and hold ‘longer’ type of companies for me. I typically read the quaterly updates for these companies and try to check if their competitive strenghts are intact and they would continue to increase their moats as time passes. I have found that selling such companies when they touch their intrinsic value (atleast my conservative estimates) has not been a good idea. Most of these companies do well over time and their intrinsic value keeps increasing. So even if the company is moderately overvalued, then I would tend to hold on. Ofcourse if the company is wildly overvalued, then I would sell the stock.

The type 2 companies are between 1 and 3. This is grey area where majority of my picks lie. Most of these companies have decent comptetive advantages and their intrinsic value increases erratically. So these kind of companies require more attention and at the end of each year, I go over my thesis and try to re-think whether I should hold onto the stock or sell it , especially if it is selling close to the intrinsic value.

All of the above is a decent amount of work. Which is why I don’t hold more than 10-12 stocks in my portfolio. But finally I think there is no buy and forget kind of stock. Ofcourse I don’t follow the stock on daily or weekly basis. My follow up is more quaterly or annual.

Found this Q&A buffett had with University of Kansas Business School Students. As usual the Q&A was a learning experience for me. In particular I found the following reply interesting

Q: What sources of investment ideas are available today?
WEB: First, you need two piles. You have to segregate businesses you can understand and reasonably predict from those you don’t understand and can’t reasonable predict. An example is chewing gum versus software. You also have to recognize what you can and can not know. Put everything you can’t understand or that is difficult to predict in one pile. That is the too hard pile. Once you know the other pile, then its important to read a lot, learn about the industries, get background information, etc. on the companies in those piles. Read a lot of 10Ks and Qs, etc. Read about the competitors. I don’t want to know the price of the stock prior to my analysis. I want to do the work and estimate a value for the stock and then compare that to the current offering price. If I know the price in advance it may influence my analysis (emphasis mine). We’re getting ready to make a $5 billion investment and this was the process I used.
I used to handicap horse racing. The odds had to add to 100%. Sometimes there would be what in horse racing is referred to as an “overlay”. We’re looking for overlays in the stock market. It’s like a treasure hunt.
You can increase your sources of investment ideas by widening your circle of competence. I’ve widened my circle over the years. I only needed to understand insurance in 1951. There were enough opportunities in that sector alone.

The above answer had me thinking. I have been making an effort in trying to learn about various industries and deepen and wide my circle of competence. The process I am following is

– pick up an industry and identify the major players in the industry
– If available, read a sector analysis report from any major brokerage firm: These reports give me good starting point and allow me to develop an initial understanding of the industry
– Use the initial understanding to build my ‘industry analysis’ worksheet
– Come up with additional questions (in terms of the competitive dynamics of the industry)
– Read the AR for the major companies (initially for the current year and then for the previous)
– Update the ‘industry analysis’
– Do valuation analysis for some of the companies which may be cheap

At the end of the above process I may find some companies worth investing. A lot of times I draw a blank. But I guess it is fine because as long as I keep doing this and improving my circle of competence, opportunities will come up.