1991-1992: Harshad mehta boom
Story: Liberalisation

1994 – IPO boom

1999-2000: IT stock boom

2003 – ? : The india story .

‘India will grow at above average rates ( > 6 %) for the next few years and more. India has the requisite demographics, savings rate and the right condition for growth’

The underlying idea behind each boom was true and maybe sound. But typically the idea got carried too far. I am reminded of this quote from benjamin graham (paraphrased)

‘ It is not the bad idea which does you in, it is the good idea carried too far’

So you have a boom in the stock market, the commodities market, gold market, real estate market. Read somewhere that property in mumbai is more expensive than manhattan !!

Maybe it is ‘different’ this time …who knows ?

I am reminded of the following statement from warren buffett

The line separating investment and speculation, which is never bright and clear, becomes blurred still further when most market participants have recently enjoyed triumphs. Nothing sedates rationality like large dosesof effortless money. After a heady experience of that kind, normally sensible people drift into behavior akin to that of Cinderella at the ball. They know that overstaying the festivities – that is, continuing to speculate in companies that have gigantic valuations relative to the cash they are likely to generate in the future will eventually bring on pumpkins and mice. But they nevertheless hate to miss a single minute of what is one helluva party. Therefore, the giddy participants all plan to leave just seconds before midnight. There’s a problem, though: They are dancing in a room in which the clocks have no hands.

— warren buffett , letter to shareholders 2000

So maybe there are people who are smart to know when the market will turn. I don’t think I can do that. Better to hold back or if the froth in the market increases, start selling.

another indicator of the bull market – in any party or evening out with friends and family, i keep hearing of the fantastic real estate, IPO or stock tips which should not be missed. prefer to keep my mouth shut in such groups. Who wants to listen to a party pooper ! surprising bit is that no one talked about stocks in 2002-2003 .

Is it that software stocks are undervalued relative to the market? Will they outperform going forward? In our view, the risk-return matrix of investing in software stocks currently is equally poised.
On a relative basis, assuming a 15% CAGR growth in earnings of the BSE Sensex companies, the benchmark index is trading at a price to earnings multiple of around 14 times FY08 earnings. As compared to the same, the top five software majors, on an average, are trading at 19 times our estimated FY08 earnings. This is a 28% premium to the benchmark index. Considering the fact that earnings growth of the top three software companies i.e. Infosys, Wipro and TCS is likely to around 25% CAGR in the next three years (66% higher than Sensex earnings growth), we believe that the premium is justified

From: BSE IT: Has it tracked fundamentals

Question: Company A has a PE of 10, expected growth of 10 % for next 10 years and a ROE of 5 %. Company B has a PE of 15, expected growth of 8 % for the same period and an ROE of 20 %. Which company is cheap?

IT companies have a return on capital which is far in excess of 25%. However the key point in justifying the current valuations would be whether this level of growth and ROE hold? and that is where issues such as competivitive advantage of the indian IT service companies, their ability to contain costs, rupee – dollar rates etc comes in. So basically the answer to the question posed in the above article is not as obvious as the writer is suggesting (at least to me)

I typically avoid reading broker reports and their recommendations. The analysis is typically very shallow, incomplete
and hardly covers any of the key aspects in valuing the company. And worse is the tendency to compare apples and oranges, which in this case is to compare BSE sensex (which includes banks, commodity companies etc ) with an IT services company.

Answer to my question: Company A is a value destroyer and would need capital to grow at 10 % for next 10 years. So I would not pay more than 4-5 PE for the company.