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Risk of high stock valuation

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Most of us know that a stock with a high valuation has a higher risk of loss if the company dissapoints in terms of earnings. However i think there is an additional factor to consider when investing in a stock which is fully valued. A stock which is fairly valued has already discounted a bright future. When i think of investing in such a stock, my due diligence has to be deeper. I should have a strong reason to believe that the company has an even brighter future than what the market believe. What that means is that i am looking into the future farther for the company

Let me illustrate –

Company A sells at 12 times PE. If the ROE is around 15%, then the stock is discounting a mere 3 years of growth of 10 %.

In contrast company B sells at 30 times PE. If the ROE is 15%, then the stock is already discounting a growth of 15% for 10 years.

For me to make money on stock B, i need to have the foresight that the company do better than what the market has discounted. That means the company has to grow faster than 15% or for longer. Both cases for stock B are not easy to forecast .

In contrast company A has to perform only a bit better to give me good returns.

Now all of the above is basic value investing and concept of margin of safety. however my thought is that for high PE stock i should have a deep understanding of the business , its competitive position and other factors. Also my margin of error is smaller for such stocks. If an unknown factor works against the company, then there could be a permanent loss of capital. In contrast low valuation stocks need only a few things to go right for me to come out ahead.

In a nutshell, a low valuation stock protects me from my own shortcomings and sometimes I can get away with lesser research.

Stocks in the real estate business, telecom and retail come to my mind when I think of fairly valued company. When I look at these companies, the thought which comes to my mind is whether these companies will do better than what the market expects and does my own research substantiate it?

Asset allocation

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There are a lot of tools available for doing asset allocation of your portfolio. They vary from the simple (like 90- age should your equity %) to the highly complex which try to allocate assets based on age, risk profile, asset classes etc.

I have till date never used an asset allocation tool though. I don’t say this with any pride or due to some big insight. It is just that I am not comfortable with most of these mechanical tools.

Asset allocation according to me is a highly subjective process. My thought process has been a bit different on it. I don’t look at asset allocation just from the point of view of my investments alone. For me an allocation decision depends on some of the following factors

1. amount of money saved – I had a higher equity holding earlier when my asset base was small. However as time progressed my equity holding as % of assets have come down although the absolute number has gone up
stability of my day time job – there have been times when I have felt that my primary source of income has been at risk. At such times I have tried to reduce the risk to my portfolio by not increasing equity investments

2. opportunities – A lot of my asset allocation decisions are based on what seems undervalued. I tend to migrate my portfolio in that direction at that time. For ex : 2002-2003 was a time for me to increase my equity holding. 2003-2004 was the time for me to move into real estate (which was based more on need than any timing). 2004-2005 was the time for me to go long on debt and into floating rate funds. 2005 and onwards I have not done much, expected liquidate a bit and just read.

3. Experience or learning – I tend to invest in only those asset classes where I feel I have some understanding and a bit of an edge. As a result I have never dabbled in options, metals etc

4. Whims and fancy – I would like to think I am rational, but I guess I am more risk averse than an average investor. As a result my investments are smaller than what a mathematical formuale (such as kelly’s formulae) would suggest. In addition, I have an aversion to IPO’s (more in a later post), gold and in ,general commodity business.

5. Sleep test – this would seem to be the most irrational factor, but it is a very important one for me. It works this way – With the current asset allocation , can I sleep well in night if a particular asset drops by 20-30 %. I have at time liquidated assets that don’t meet this criteria.

As a result of all these factors my average equity holding fluctuates between 30-50 %, real estate 20-30% and the rest in debt holding. Not a very optimal approach, but it gives me my targeted rate of return and lets me sleep well !!

Thoughts on inflation and interest rates

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The RBI has just raised the CRR by another .5 %. This with inflation at 6.5%, although I feel this inflation is understated as the government’s basket of goods really not reflect an average middle class’s consumption profile. Rentals, education and health care alone are inflating in double digits.

I have never had any specific views on interest rates or inflation. I try not to base my investment plans on any predictions of inflation or interest rates. However that does not mean I don’t to react to it. In the past I have taken the following actions

In 2000-2001, I invested in fixed income debt funds. As the rates fell, the appreciation in these funds was substantial.

In 2003 when the interest rates were at an all time low, I moved my fixed income investments into floating rate funds and went long on by housing debt (see my thoughts on it here)

With rates hovering in 9-10 %, I have started looking at the option of moving out of floating rate funds into fixed income debt funds of average maturity (4-6 years duration). I have not made up my mind yet on it. I may wait for a couple of months more as I feel that the interest rates may rise a bit further. I am not sure about it and do not have specific views on it, but would wait and watch and react opportunistically to it.

As far as the stock market is concerned, I have been finding a few interesting opportunities such as indraprastha gas which I will explore further in a future post.

Additional comments – 15-Feb

Found this article on GEF (morgan stanley ‘s global economic forum)

http://www.morganstanley.com/views/gef/archive/2007/20070214-Wed.html#anchor4403

Following comments are worth noting

Excess liquidity conditions in late 2003 and 2004 resulted in banks searching for yield and charging negligible risk premiums for loan assets with inherently higher risks. Just about 12 months ago, banks were making little distinction between pricing credit risk for various types of loan assets. Almost all loans were being priced in a very narrow range of around 7.5-8%, which was very similar to the 10-year bond yields then. Indeed, banks’ lending behavior implied that the risk of lending to a low-income-bracket borrower (for whom there is little credit history available) for the purchase of a two-wheeler was not meaningfully different from the risk of investing in government bonds.

If the past two months’ average credit growth of 30% and deposit growth of 22.5% are maintained, the banking sector SLR ratio will reach its maximum limit of 25% by March 2007.

Importance of a simple business

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I generally analyse a good number of companies before investing in a few. A lot of times i am not able to figure out, with reasonable confidence, the range of intrinsic value estimates for the company. I have had this problem with telecom, retail companies etc. These are companies in a new, sunrise industry. There is a lot of promise and enthusiam around the companies and the valuations may reflect that. I do not have a doubt that these companies and industries will do well. The problem for me is figuring out how well, and how much of that is already built into the stock price.

On the other end are companies which are essentially conglomerates or a combination of businesses such as Reliance, IOC etc. These are in mature industries and are good companies. They may very well be undervalued. The problem for me is that they have a lot of moving parts. IOC has a 400 page annual report, relaince has (or used to have) a lot smaller businesses such as telecom, asset management and now retail etc. So analysing these companies would mean taking apart each of the sub-businesses, valuing each of them separately and then arriving at the whole value. Impossible …no, but definitely tough and a lot of work.

Compare that to the simple (as least to me) businesses such as castrol (lubes), Lanxess ABS(ABS), marico (FMCG), asian paints (paints), concor etc. I could go on and on. These companies are engaged in a single line of business, nationally or in some cases in international markets. They have a decent operating history, dominant position in a stable market, and in some cases attractive valuations. To boot, some even have a small annual reports to analyse (just joking!).

I have invested in both the complex and in the simple businesses (avoided the sunrise type industry as I don’t have a better idea of these businesses). Overall, I found that the simple businesses are easier to understand, to follow on a regular basis and in the end give good returns.

I am clearly influenced by the following quote by warren buffett

“Investors should remember that their scorecard is not computed using Olympic-diving methods: Degree-of-difficulty doesn’t count. If you are right about a business whose value is largely dependent on a single key factor that is both easy to understand and enduring, the payoff is the same as if you had correctly analyzed an investment alternative characterized by many constantly shifting and complex variables.”

So if I have an option between a diffcult to understand, complex conglomerate and a simple business(all else being the same), I generally opt for the simpler business.

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