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The Subprime mess and opportunity

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Only when the tide goes out do you discover who’s been swimming naked – warren buffett

It is diffcult to avoid reading on the subprime mess in the US. I have an oversimplified explaination –
‘Losses being incurred by individual and institutions for overpaying for financial assets like CDO, MBS (mortage backed security) and other debt due to greed (for higher yields), ignorance (not knowing what was behind these assets) and overconfidence (too much faith on models)’. So what we are seeing is repricing (or correct pricing ?) of these assets.

Well for a much better understanding on what is happening and what may happen in the months to follow , read this article on fortune.

In a nutshell the opinion is that this bubble will take some time to unwind, there could be volatility in the markets due to that and there could be steep losses for some.

I think india is not going to be affected much directly. However we could see second order effects. With a liquidity crunch, it is quite possible that the excess liquidity which is driving our stock and real estate markets may dry up. This could cause some volatility and short term drops. How much and when ? …who knows. I think the equity markets are already reacting and there maybe be some anecdotal evidence of the same happening in the real estate market too.

If, like me, you have also been tracking some stocks or have surplus cash to invest , the next few months may provide a few good opportunities. For ex: the auto sector, oil and gas and several mid-cap, microcaps are now selling at much lower prices and could soon be great bragains.

The most common cause of low prices is pessimism. We want to do business in such an environment, not because we like pessimism, but because we like the prices it produces. It’s optimism that is the enemy of the rational buyer – warren buffett

Passive v/s Active investing

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There is an interesting post by prem sagar on passive v/s active interesting. In response to the post deepak has posted a response on his blog

If I have understand it correctly, prem’s position is that one should calculate the delta returns one would get by investing actively and compare it with other sources of income such as a job and decide if it is worth the effort. For ex: an extra 3-4 % return on a portfolio of 10 lacs could mean 30-40 K extra money. Not enough to make active investing worth your while.

In contrast deepak’s position is that if the returns are around 50% then the delta would be 3-4 lacs (for a 10 lac portfolio). With these kind of returns, active investing can be looked at seriously.

I have thought long and hard on this above issue. My take is as follows

I think prem’s position is perfectly valid for a new investor. I really doubt if it is possible to earn 50% annual returns for a long period of time (atleast 5 years or more) by spending 1-2 hours per day on the side. However if you are one of those guys (I am definitely not) who has earned 50% per annum (from 2001-2006, which covers a bear and bull market) then you are an exceptional investor. If I were you, I would seriously look at investing as a career. I would get my returns audited (no one is going to believe unaudited claims) and then look at the publicizing the returns. For a person capable of earnings such returns, attracting capital would not be diffcult. One can start an investment partnership and become really rich.

However I am definitely not such a guy. My final objective is to reach that level referred to by deepak. So what I do in the interimn?

This is my thought process (which mirrors prem’s approach partly)

a. save money and increase the amount of investible capital
b. learn and improve my skills to improve my returns
c. When the investible capital becomes high and my returns (for atleast 5 years rolling) cross a threshold, it maybe time to look at investing as profession (assuming you love to do this, I do)
For ex: passive investing returns are 15% (long term index returns). Active investing returns are say 30%.Investible capital is say 100 lacs. Then a net extra return of 15 lacs may be worth the effort.

BTW, to give you an idea of what 30% long term returns mean, consider the following – superinvestor ‘warren buffett’ has made 26% per annum for last 50 years, george soros has made 30-35% per annum (may be a bit more) for around 30 years and rakesh jhunjunwala around 70% (assuming he started with 5000 rs and has 4000 crs or 1 bn dollars now). So if you can make 30%+ for more than 10 years, you are an exceptional investor and can really do well.

For lesser mortals (it is easy to think that you are exceptional based on 1-2 years returns, I did that myself in 1999-2000), I think prem sagar’s approach is a valid one to start with, learn as you go along and deepak’s is the one to aspire for.

As an aside, I completely agree with deepak’s concept of leverage which is also referred to by several other authors.

My notes on power sector – II

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My notes on the power/capital goods and other suppliers

Capital goods suppliers

This sector is dominated by BHEL and ABB followed by several smaller players and Chinese manufacturers. BHEL accounts for almost 65% of capacity and market share. This sector has seen good growth in the last 3-4 years and should see continuing growth for the next couple of years. ABB has a smaller product range mainly for the power sector and industry automation. However it is more profitable company than BHEL and doing extremely well for the past few years.
The companies in this sector are characterized by high return on capital and good competitive advantages. The key competitive advantage is due to Scale, technology and an existing customer base. The companies in this sector are now investing in R&D and also targeting export markets as they increase in size.
This sector should see more competition due to the high demand from Chinese manufacturers, domestic OEM players and foreign players.The market recognizes the bright prospects of this sector and most of the companies in this sector seem to be fairly priced.

Other suppliers (power cable industry)

This industry is characterised by several players. The key ones are
KEI industries
Diamond cables
Nicco
Universal and torrent

The industry was loosing money during the period 2001-2004. Several players had negative networth and the stronger ones such as KEI had very small profits. Since 2004 due to the boom in the power sector, industry, Oil and gas and real estate, demand has soared and this has resulted in a turnaround for all the companies in the sector. Several of them such diamond have wiped out accumulated losses and are now profitable. The stronger and aggressive players such as KEI have invested in additional capacities and are now growing rapidly. There is now a huge demand in the domestic market and some of the export markets. Several companies in this sector are tapping this demand and doing well.

The industry is however cyclical with almost 70% cost due to raw material. The key RM is copper, aluminum and steel the prices for which have increased in the last few years and fluctuate rapidly. The industry has weak competitive advantages and the key strengths come from scale of operation, customer relationship and operational efficiencies. As a result during the cyclical downturn several companies lose money heavily.

KEI industries and Torrent cables are currently the most profitable players with ROC in excess of 30%. At the same time the other companies in the industry have also turned around in performance due to the strong demand. KEI industry is growing rapidly through organic growth via capacity additions, product range extensions and export markets. It is also looking out for acquisitions abroad. Torrent cables is also doing well and has fairly good financials. These two companies seem to be good investment candidates in the sector

The other companies have had a turnaround in the last few years and hence it may not be easy to predict how they will fare during the next downturn.

To get a better understanding of the dynamics of the power cable industry, the AR for KEI industries is a good starting point.

My notes on power sector – I

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My notes on the power sector below

The power sector can be divided into the following sub-sectors

a. Generation – This sector has companies such as NTPC, REL, tata power and state generation units
b. Transmission and distribution – Mostly owned by SEB except in a few places such as delhi where it has been privatised
c. Capital good suppliers such as BHEL, ABB, L&T etc
d. Other suppliers like power cable companies, fuel suppliers etc.

Detailed analysis of the sector is provided in the business analysis spreadsheet. I have a new version (Business analysis_working_aug 2007) recently.

A brief analysis of each sub-sector follows

Generation

Generation is dominated by companies such as NTPC and State generation utilities. A few private sector players such as REL and Tata power also are important players in the sector.

This sector is characterised by fixed return on capital of around 12-14%. The tariff’s are adjusted in such a way that the company has a fixed return on capital. In addition government companies such as NTPC have had a recievables issue in past due to non-payment of dues by SEB. This was resolved by state government bonds and in the last 2 years this problem seems to be contained. Private sector companies such as reliance do not have a similar issue and have a zero net debt situation

Due to the huge power deficiet in the country, there is current a lot of expansion and new generation capacity being put in place. The XI plan envisages almost 85000 MW of capacity addition. All the generation companies such as NTPC, REL etc have big expansion plans which should result in increase in earnings and good growth. However the sector is characterised by political interference and hence there could be several risks to the expansion plans.

Companies such as REL, NTPC, and Tata power have substantial competitive advantages due to their long term experience in the power sector, financial strength and current backward expansion in fuel sources such as coal, gas exploration and forward integration into transmission, power distribution and power trading.

Most of the companies in this sector sell at around 19-20 times their earnings and seem to be fairly priced. However if government regulation and other obstacles in the power sector are resolved, these companies could see a lot of growth with good return on capital.

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